Newsgroups: alt.music.makers.dj
Subject: Re: BURNING MP3 TO CD??
References: <[email protected]>
	<01be7646$6ed69ee0$71e0abc3@default> <[email protected]>
	<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
From: Tomi Holger Engdahl 
Date: 07 Apr 1999 12:36:16 +0300
Message-ID: 
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 51
X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34
"Jack Brotherhood"  writes:

> Of course .. I can listen to my vinyls a milllion times and the bass always
> feels so fresh .. on CD it's more boring .. hard to explain but i think so.
> You get tired of it like really quick... Take something like massive attak
> or so ..  just think i sounds flat on CD...

Are your listening feelings from professionally made vinyls and CDs ?
Or have you listened to the vinyl and then some homemade CD-R which
is not well made (medium quality sound card, gain settings not set to
best positions etc.) ? If you have listened to the homemade CD,
then the problem is quite surely in some else place place than limitations
of the CD system.
 
> >There should be next to no loss when recording Vinyl to CD (especially when
> >using fresh Vinyl, a good TT, a good RIAA(A) preamp and any descent
> >soundcart. In some cases, the result (the copy) can even sound better than
> >the original (since you can remove some problems the original had like
> >noise, pops etc). 
> Well i dont know what you define as good ,, i have done this at a friends
> place ,, he's got some really expensive high end TT's and all other
> equipment exept the sound card withch is  a soundblaster(new one) .. and
> what happens when you do this is tthat you get a CD(hold on to something
> now:::) with shitty bass and all the crack's of vinel..

Most of those Sound Blasters have shitty bass response and other
"features" which desgrade sound quality. If you record the CD with
soudn blaster to computer and burn CD, you are not listening
the limitations of the CD system! What you hear is the problems
that the sound card causes to the sound. Those Sound Blasters
and similar sound cards must have lots of easy to sell features (16 bits,
3D sound, "CD quality" etc. slogans, software bundled with them) 
and they must cost next to nothing. Because quite few of the users
really bother on the best should quality, they are built using the cheapest
components which can do the job.

Try to do the same with some professional quality sound card
or some audio CD-R-burher device and then make another test
if the sound is degraded or not.

You can find links to sound card tests at
http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/pc/sound.html#test
Look at them and see how far from ideal most ofd the sound
cards in the market are! Practicly none of the home market
sound cards have true 16 bit resolution ! THey have efectively quite
many bits less. Note: Need some technical eperience on audio field
to understand the results of the sound card performance tests.

-- 
Tomi Engdahl (http://www.iki.fi/then/)
Take a look at my electronics web pages at http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/