Newsgroups: sci.engr.electrical.compliance Subject: Re: Couple EN 60950 questions References: <[email protected]> Harold Hallikainenwrites: > We just got a report back from the safety lab and I thought I'd get > additional opinions on a couple items. The product is a small theatrical > light dimmer that plugs into a standard wall outlet. It has four outlets > for driving lamps. > > #1 - Overcurrent protection. The dimmer has four outlets and four 10 amp > circuit breakers. The 10A breakers (in the hot side of the line, not the > neutral) are between the incoming AC and the dimming circuitry for each > channel. They thus protect the internal wiring past the breaker, the > triac, the choke, and the outlet for each channel. Sound good up to this point to me. I have designed some dimmer circuit, bu never made them to a commercial product and through the safety lab inspections. In one of my own circuits I have made protection so that I had per channel fuses (for serious short circuit protections) and then one main breaker for protecting against input overload. > The power inlet is > either a Neutrik PowerCon (20A) or an IEC60320 C14 inlet (10A). The lab > is suggesting that we are not complying with 2.7.1, yet it appears to me > that as pluggable equipment type A, we may rely upon the protection of > the wall socket to protect the equipment (insuring that 40A is not drawn > through the power inlet). Comments? For case of IEC 10A inlet my views is also that you can't rely on protection of the wall socket fusing. That inlet is rated for 10A current, but the protection on the wall sockets in Europe are generally of higher value. Uusally wall sockets are fused with 10A or 16A fuses in continental Europe and with 13A in UK. This means that depending on the country you would be drawing 13A or 16A current through 10A reted connector without any protections doing anything. I would se this as a safety hazard. So if the equipment uses that 10A inlet, my view is that there should be a 10A main breaker to make sure that you are not overloading the power input. This would be the good and safe engineering practice. On case that all the outputs are 10A rated and maximun load is 10A, I would think that you just need that 10A main breaker (and not any 10A per channel protections, that's the point of putting two similar 10A breakers in series... Would save some money). For that 20A Neutrik PowerCon, I am not sure if that would comply without any extra protection, But also in this case I would say that a 16A main overload protection would be a good and sound practice. And then using those 10A per channel breakers. The general industry practice in this kind of portable dimmers seems to be that there is almost always a main breaker for input current overload protection and then besides that per channel protection (breakers or fuses). This applies to well designed portable theatrical dimmer systems I have used and seen. -- Tomi Engdahl (http://www.iki.fi/then/) Take a look at my electronics web links and documents at http://www.epanorama.net/