In my earier posting LED tube replaces fluorescent I wrote that due real Fluorescent lamp fire danger I have pretty much tried to get rid of potentially dangerous tradtional starters in the fuorescent lamps. So I replaced the starter with electronic safety model – if bulb does not start, it will stay off without heating. Or at least should.
I got one Axxel S10 starter that did not always get the bulb started, and sometimes just stays on keeping the ends of the tube heated (which is the thing that I was avoiding with electrical started) – and it seems that I was not the only person having this kind of problems with Axxel S10 starter.
Should I change the electronic starter Axxel S10 to a safer model? It seems that definately yes for safety.
Should I make a teardown to see what was wrong in this specificAxxel S10 starter? Of course!
Here are some pictures what is inside the starter:
I did not expect to see a relay with 12V DC coil inside (I would have expected thyristor or fet like other similar products seem to be use). This tiny relay with 12VDC seems to be get it’s power through some resistors, capacitors, zener diode etc…
Now I see what is wrong. There is one burned resistor on the right. This is most propable cause of the problems.
The question is why it failed in the first place. Was it too low power in the first place or was here some other problem that caused it to fail. I don’t have answers to that.
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Tomi Engdahl says:
And this Axxel S10 was marketed as product that increases safety:
“Electronic fluorescent tube starter ignite quickly, evenly, and then extend the fluorescent lamp and ballast life. Reduces maintenance costs by 50-70%. automatically shut down the faulty fluorescent tubes and chokes to prevent overheating and burning. 4-80W, S10, 220-240V, 50Hz.”
Source: http://taloustalokirri.fi/tuote/axel-elektroninen-loisteputken-sytytin-2-kpl/
Tomi Engdahl says:
I had another Axxel S10 starter, and I had also similar issues with it, read about them at
http://www.epanorama.net/newepa/2016/03/28/second-bad-fluorescent-starter/
Tomi Engdahl says:
When I found about this quality issue, I also informed the local electrical safety orgaization Tukes
( http://www.tukes.fi/ ) on the issues I had found.
They actually reponded quite quickly to my report. They had also received another similar report and had the product in question to be tested. According to the tests (I received a copy of test report) they had found out that the product will fail sometimes, but they had not considered it to be so dangerous that selling it should be banned (low quality product but not too dangerous).
Tomi Engdahl says:
Reverse engineering an electronic fluorescent starter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjphxq9nUrA
I can recall opening one of these PulseStarter units when I was younger, but didn’t have the skills to fully understand the operation. It’s a lot clearer now, but there is still an oddity of how the thyristor that shunts the starter contacts is kept off if the tube doesn’t strike.
Tomi Engdahl says:
Reverse engineering an electronic fluorescent starter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjphxq9nUrA
Tomi Engdahl says:
Reverse engineering an electronic fluorescent starter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjphxq9nUrA
It’s actually quite a neat circuit. I wonder what sort of thyristor they used before this application specific thyristor was introduced.